The Virgin Birth
or
Virgin Conception?

by D. J. Love, Minister, TSN, SBC

Written in 2003
Refined 3-22-2007

Links in Green


Does the Inspired word of YHVH
(The Eternal Creator) truly teach "The Virgin Birth" and "Immaculate Conception" or a completely different doctrine?


Note: It is absolutely impossible to understand this message when one has a distorted understanding of just exactly what "The Holy Spirit" actually is. One thing is for sure, The Holy Spirit is not a God or a Ghost. Therefore, do not proceed any further until you have read and understand "The Holy Spirit" of YHVH.


Immaculate Conception: The Universal Roman doctrine that Mary (actually Miryam) herself was conceived in her mother's womb free from all "Original Sin."

Note: First of all, no human being, that has ever been born from the womb, was born "A Sinner." However, ALL human beings were born immersed "into" sin. This is Satan's (Humanity's or Satan's Natural) world for now, and to be born "into" this world is to be immersed "into" a world where it is human nature to sin. So what is "Sin" anyway? Sin is "Self-centeredness" versus "YHVH Centeredness." However, "Original Sin" is a completely false doctrine unto itself. Therefore the real question is (Click Link) "Do Babies Sin?" The answer is no!


A "Seeker of Truth" can still Spiritually discern most of the truth from the highly biased translations of the
Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) of the 'So Called' New Testament, which is at least a third level translation of the Apostolic Writings or Epistles (that have mysteriously vanished); which were originally translated by uninspired hellenized (pagan by choice) Jews, and canonized by the ancient Roman universal (catholic) church, and government (of Roman god and Emperor Constantine fame). So rather than just have those who seek truth from taking my word for it, I have decided to show that there are loopholes in the highly biased (so called) New Testament translations.

Remember This: ONLY a person with YHVH's Holy Spirit (Righteousness Seeking Mentality) of Truth can properly understand and translate "The Inspired Words of YHVH." Certainly not pagan by choice (hellenized), Jewish born translators OR a Roman Government sponsored "Universal Roman (catholic) Church" headed by a SELF proclaimed Roman god and emperor; who didn't actually make any effort to convert to his own perverted form of "Christianity" until he (Constantine) was on his death bed.

IF Scripture was 100 percent literal then a literal translation may bring you the "Good News", but Scripture is mostly allegorical. See "Parables and Parallels"
(Parallel Meanings).


1Corinthians 2:14
But the
natural (uninspired or pagan or hellenized) man does not receive the things (Fruits of the Spirit: wisdom, understanding, patience, love, etc.) of the Spirit of G-d: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are Spiritually Discerned (Not Hebraically Discerned).

John 16:13
Howbeit, when the Spirit of truth, is come, it will guide you into all truth: for it shall not speak of itself; but whatsoever it shall hear, that shall it speak: and it will shew you things to come.


Note: The personal pronoun "He" was added to the King James and subsequent English versions of the Bible whenever "The Holy Spirit" was the topic, but the Greek language reveals that "The Holy Spirit" is YHVH's "Righteousness Seeking Mindset," and not a third person of the pagan trinity.





"The Virgin Birth"

According to the Roman Christopagan
version of Matthew

See if you can spot the subtle translation twistings.


Some Hebrew translations actually render "Virgin Conception" rather than "Virgin Birth." I say, that is far more probable, as virgin conception is not an uncommon occurrence.


Matthew 1:16-25
16 Jacob became the father of Joseph, (who was) the husband of Miryam (Mary), from whom (Joseph & Miryam) was born (Strong's #G1080, Gennao, procreated or begotten as a property of the father or sire, Joseph, as stated) Y'Shua, who is called Messiah.
17 So all the (Male) generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; from David to the exile to Babylon fourteen generations; and from the carrying away to Babylon to the Messiah, fourteen generations (of males).
18 Now the birth of Messiah Y'Shua was like this; because when his mother, Miriam (English for H4813, "Miryam;" Mary is incorrect ), had been espoused (G3423, "mnesteno", promised wife) to Joseph, before they came together (Strong's #4905, Sunerchomai, Live together on a daily basis or cohabitate), she was found pregnant by the [mental or Spiritual influence of the] Holy Spirit [that resided within her mind].
(Continued further down)


Note: Pregnant by the Holy Spirit does not mean that the Holy Spirit made her pregnant. It means "The Holy Spirit" influenced her (Mary or Miryam) to get pregnant by Joseph prior to their permanent cohabitation. Thus she allowed herself to get pregnant (by consummating her marriage to Joseph before the scheduled date of their permanent cohabitation) because of the Holy and Righteous nature [Spiritual influence] of the situation. She was not only filled mentally and emotionally by YHVH's Holy Spirit of Love for The Eternal Himself, but also, for her husband Joseph (see verse 20 below), and , also, her yet to be conceived son, Y'Shua (The Promised Messiah and rightful heir to the throne of David).


1Corinthians 7:9,36
9 But if they cannot contain,
let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

36 But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.


Traditional Christianity would have us to believe that all premarital sex is a sin, but YHVH's inspired word clearly reveals that a man and his virgin have not sinned.

Did Miryam
(Mary) and Joseph have full intercourse prior to their marriage? Absolutely, as it was not an uncommon practice in those days for engaged couples, because in those days the only difference between a promised marriage and actual marriage was permanent "Cohabitation." Joseph and Miryam (Mary) were not only married in their own opinion, but also, in YHVH's opinion; They loved each other with a Holy Spirit of Love, and they eventually cohabitated as a married couple. Therefore, they did not sin, and their relationship remained righteous.

Additionally, Joseph had to be the true physical father
(sire) of Messiah Y'Shua in order for the verses of Matthew 1:1-15 (below) to have any TRUE purpose in being mentioned at all. We already know from research that Christianity has lied about the identity of The Holy Spirit (a mental attitude of Seeking Righteousness), so it only makes sense that they lied about this too, since the Holy Spirit is involved in Miryam's (Mary's) decision to get pregnant. The Universal Roman church actually wants mankind to believe in The Pagan Trinity. Only pagans believe that humans and gods or demigods have children from sex or a magical implantation of the seed of Abraham. This pagan concept is pure rubbish based on superstition and ignorance. Why would YHVH pervert his own promise to Abraham with a scam or misrepresentation when He didn't need to. Joseph was right there, and Miryam (Mary) was already his by promise. Would Righteous YHVH perform such an unrighteous act against both Miryam and Joseph? Absolutely Not !


Romans 1:3
Concerning His
(Spiritually begotten) Son, Messiah Y'Shua, our Master (Teacher), which was made (created) of the (physical) seed (genetic DNA) of David according to the flesh (Purely Physical);


Note: All of YHVH's Children are Spiritually Begotten! Not by some magic seed implanting mythological holy ghost, but by The Renewing of The Mind by the Holy (Righteousness Seeking) Spirit (Mindset) of YHVH that has the power to change mens attitudes.
Therefore, by the Spiritual "Renewing of the Mind" some people become "Born Again"
(A new man).


Romans 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye
transformed (born again or anew) by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of YHVH.


Some less knowledgeable Christians, Nazarenes, and Messianics might say, "Why should we limit the power of G-d?" To this I say, because YHVH limits His own power to that of pure righteousness. YHVH never deals in unrighteousness, even if He has the power to do so! Furthermore, YHVH is not an unrighteous hypocrite. Why would YHVH tell us not to follow the way of The heathen
(pagans), and then turn around and do so Himself ? The Virgin Birth began with The Babylonians, Assyrians, Mesopotamians, etc. long before the normal physical birth of Messiah.


Deuteronomy 12:28-31
28 Observe and hear all these words which I command thee, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee forever, when thou doest that which is good and right (righteous) in the sight of the YHVH thy LORD.
29 When YHVH thy LORD shall cut off the
(pagan) nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them (pagan nations), and thou succeedest them (pagan nations), and dwellest in their land;
30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them (
pagan nations), after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their (pagan) gods, saying, How did these (pagan) nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.
31 Thou shalt not do so unto the YHVH thy LORD: for every abomination to the LORD, which He HATES, have they done unto their
(pagan) gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.


NOTE: The title of "Holy Virgin" was the title of harlot-priestesses of Ishtar (and) Asherah. It is this TITLE (not a pure form virgin reality) that was borrowed by the Greco-Roman church. The pagan title of "Holy Virgins" did not mean physical virginity at all; it meant simply "unmarried" (no husband). The function of these (So Called) "Holy Virgins" was to dispense the Mother's (Ishtar's / Asterah's) grace through sexual worship; to heal; to prophesy; to perform sacred dances; to wail for the dead; and to become "Brides of god." The Hebrews called the children of these unmarried harlot priestesses "Bathur," which meant literally "Virgin Born." The rest of "The Hellenic (Pagan) World" had no language equivalent to the bizarre rituals of Ishtar, and mistranslated and misunderstood the literal Hebrew's terminology of "Bathur" as "Parthenioi", also "virgin born" but in the sense of the physical (not spiritual) virginity.

Just for the record, YHVH is not a male (He), female (She) or an IT. In order for YHVH to be these things, YHVH would have to be flesh, and YHVH is not flesh any more than Messiah was (is) God. See "Who Says Messiah Is God?"


Even so, let it be known right now, that Messiah did not actually have to be the physical heir to the throne of David. The genealogy of the throne of David is
not (I repeat NOT) necessarily a physical genealogy of first born sons nearly as much as it is "The Spiritually Righteous Lineage" to "The Righteous Throne of Righteous David" as "The Righteous Seed" (One Seed: Galatians 3:16) of "Righteous Abraham". Why would YHVH ever allow even the smallest possibility that an unrighteous physical heir to the throne of David be allowed to sit on "The Righteous Spiritual Throne" (right hand of YHVH) in the "Coming Righteous Spiritual Kingdom" of "The Righteous Spiritual Father of Creation" during the "Spiritually Righteous Sabbath Millennium" just because he just happened to be the physical heir to the throne? Never! Never! Never! YHVH is not stupid or unrighteous! YHVH never intended for His "Coming Spiritual Kingdom of Righteousness on Earth" to be ruled on the basis of physical inheritance; Even so, Messiah Y'Shua satisfied both requirements by being sired by a human father (Joseph), and by his righteous obedience to YHVH.

Read: The Throne Of YHVH.

Let's continue:


Matthew 1:1-15
1:1 ¶ The book of the generation of Messiah Y'Shua, the son of David, the son of Abraham.


Note: The Hebrew considered all male descendants to be sons (sons, grandsons, great-grandsons, great-great-grandsons, etc.).


2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;
3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;
6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias;
7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa;
8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias;
9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;
10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias;
11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:
12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel;
13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor;
14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud;
15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;

16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Miryam (Mary), of whom was born Y'Shua, who is called Messiah.


As for "
The Virgin" statement, that was simply to establish that "The Messiah would be The First Born Son or Eldest Son" and thus the lawful contender to the throne of David, because it is only possible for A First Born Child to be conceived from a virgin; In other words, Miryam (Mary) became pregnant with The Messiah and lost her virginity at the exact same time (her FIRST TIME), thus confirming The Messiah's physical birth (a physical to Spiritual parallel) as a FIRST BORN SON (physical for Miryam and Joseph, but Spiritual for YHVH).

Regardless of all of this, and even
IF Joseph's and King David's Seed was supernaturally placed into the virgin womb of Miryam (Mary), Miryam's virginity would still not prove that The Messiah pre-existed or was God. It (IF True) would still only prove that The Messiah was without a doubt The First Born or Eldest Son of Miryam (Mary), and (IF supernaturally conceived) thus not a True Physical Seed of Abraham (Spiritual? Yes! Physical? No!).

The next verse shows that Miryam
(Mary) and Joseph were not simply engaged by modern standards (a joke at best), but actually married.
(Continued from above)


19 Joseph, her husband, being a righteous man (and not understanding the situation at this time), and not willing to make her a public example, intended to put her away secretly (secret divorce).


Note: Joseph was considering putting Miryam away, because most everybody thought she was crazy. After all, she was extremely excited about being chosen to be the mother of the prophesied Messiah. Why should anyone believe she was sane? That is why an angel (Aggelos or messenger) told Joseph to not be afraid. Why would Joseph be afraid to marry or cohabitate with a sane woman with whom he was already engaged (considered pre-married)? After all, Joseph knew she was a virgin when he fathered The Messiah.

Don't forget, uninspired Greco-Roman
(Hellenized) Jewish translators cannot properly translate allegorical Scripture. They don't have "Ears to Hear" or "Eyes to See." Besides The Roman Church was more interested in appeasing the pagan people that they had conquered. Power was their game, not truth.


20 But while he (Joseph) thought about these things (Miryam's behavior), behold, an angel (Messenger) of the LORD (YHVH the "Controller") appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, "Son (physical seed) of David", don't be afraid to take to yourself (cohabitate with your wife) Miryam, your wife, (see, they were married) for that which is conceived in her is (because) of the Holy Spirit (Righteousness seeking Attitude of Love).
21 She shall bring forth a son (your seed as per verse 16). You shall call his name Y'Shua, for it is he who shall SOZO (Strong's #4982, Sozo, DELIVER) his people (or his followers) from their sins." (Not "Save Them" but "SHOW THEM THE WAY", just like Moses delivered ancient Israel)
22 Now all this has happened, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the LORD (YHVH, the "Controller") through the prophet, saying,
23 "Behold, the MAIDEN (Strong's #G3933, Parthenos, a maiden or unmarried daughter or by implication only, a virgin) shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son. They shall call his name Immanuel;" which is, being interpreted, "YHVH with us" (implying no longer separated from YHVH, because of Israel's sins).
24 Joseph arose from his sleep, and did as the angel (messenger) of the LORD (YHVH) commanded him (in a dream), and (G#3880) took (as an intimate relationship) his wife unto (G#846) himself (They began permanent COHABITATION);
25 and (G#1097) understood it not (didn't really understand what was happening), until (some time after) she had brought forth (G#5088) their firstborn son. He named him Y'Shua.


Note: Now you can draw your own conclusions, but the following scriptural evidences must be considered:

1) Verse 16 positively identifies Joseph as the father or sire, as does Romans 1:3.
2) Righteousness was not compromised by premarital hanky panky as they Truly Loved one another and got married. This PROVES that YHVH judges the "Intent of the Heart" (Hebrews 4:12). YHVH has always judged the "Intent of The Heart," as YHVH is stable and unchanging.
3) "Parthenos" is a virgin by implication only.
4) Why was Joseph having second thoughts? It appears to me that he was confused? Even Miryam was disturbed at first (verse to follow)!
5) The Holy Spirit is a Righteous Attitude of Love, and not an entity or ghost like god (See Holy Spirit).
6) The 'so called' New Testament was canonized only by the one 'universal' pagan church of ROME, which has proved herself to be the 'Prophesied Harlot' of the Book of Revelation. So what did they do with the original Hebrew and Aramaic Epistles? Why would they hide or possibly even destroy the original documents?
There is never a good reason to hide the truth!
7) Verse 25 was definitely mistranslated through a preconceived bias, and required a search of Strong's concordance in order to obtain the correct translation.

Important Note: In John 8:27, John 10:6, John 12:16, the Greek word <G#1097> "Gonosko" is translated as "Understood" in the KJV Bible. It seems that the translators had a hidden bias and agenda, as there is a huge difference between the implication of "He knew her not" and "He understood her or it not". Additionally her or it or their was not specified until the biased English translations came out.



According to the catholic Version
of Luke



Luke 1:27-56
27 to a virgin
(Strong's #G3933, Parthenos, a maiden or unmarried daughter or by implication only, a virgin) pledged to be married to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin's name was Miryam (Mary).
28 Having come unto her, the angel
(Messenger) said, "Rejoice, you highly favored (under Grace) one (a True Worshipper of YHVH)! The LORD (YHVH) is with you. Blessed are you among women!"
29 But when she saw him,
she was greatly troubled (even Miryam was disturbed at first) at the saying, and considered what kind of salutation this might be.
30 The angel said to her, "Don't be afraid, Miryam, for you have found favor
(Grace) with YHVH (The Self-existent Creator).
31 Behold, you will conceive in your womb, and bring forth a son, and will call his name Y'Shua
(also Yeshua or Yahushua).
32 He will be great, and will be called
(NOT is already called the son of YHVH) the Son of the Most High. The LORD (YHVH) will give to him the throne of his father, David, (Not the throne or position of YHVH, but the throne of Israel in The New Jerusalem)
33 and he will reign over the house of Jacob
(Israel) forever. There will be no end of his kingdom."
34 Miryam
(Mary) said to the angel, "How will this be, seeing I am a virgin (unmarried maiden, not cohabitating with my husband, and not pregnant)?"
35 The angel answered her, "The Holy Spirit
("Mindset" of YHVH's Righteous Love) will come on you (enter into your mind), and the power of the Most High (YHVH's Power) will overshadow (Strong's #1982, episkiazo, means to have Righteous Influence over) you. Therefore, also, the Holy one which is to be born from you will (someday) be called the Son of YHVH.
36 Behold, Elizabeth
(mother of John the Baptizer), your relative, also has conceived a son in her old age; and this is the sixth month with her who was called barren.
37 For no word from YHVH will be void of power."
38 Miryam said, "Behold, the handmaid
(Servant) of the LORD; be it to me according to your word" (Miryam could hardly contain her excitement and willingness to comply). The angel departed from her (At this point Miryam has no objection to becoming pregnant by Joseph, and indeed is thinking about it all of the time).
39 Miryam arose in those days
(already somewhat overshadowed with Righteous Influence), and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Judah,
40 and entered into the house of Zacharias and greeted Elizabeth
(John, The Baptizer's mother).
41 It happened, when Elizabeth heard Miryam's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and
(also) Elizabeth was filled with the (Joy of the) Holy Spirit (of YHVH's Love) (Excitement was "In The Air" and the adrenaline was flowing) (Additionally, it was Elizabeth's pregnancy AND Righteous Influence that truly fulfilled the "Overshadowing" Miryam or Mary).



Note: A great joyful emotion brought on by the Holy Spiritual feeling of Righteous Love, would cause a huge surge of adrenaline in Elizabeth's body that would have been transferred to her unborn baby. No doubt that they were both aware of the situation at hand.

Note: There were no prepositions in the original Aramaic or Hebrew texts, and thus the translators added them haphazardly according to their bias. Statements in the Appendix of the Strong's Concordance, English words, specifically prepositions (of, to, for, from, by, etc.) and pronouns (he, she, it), are merely the rendering of some inflection (which is highly susceptible to bias), and can greatly alter the meaning of a sentence, as you shall see. Afterall, YHVH Inspired writings can only be interpreted or translated by YHVH Inspired people, and not by "Pagan by Choice" hellenized Jews OR "Pagan by Choice" Roman Catholics OR Protestant Catholics (that's right, anyone who follows catholic Tradition is a catholic in YHVH's eyes).


42 She called out with a loud voice
(strong emotion), and said, "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! (You see, Elizabeth was also excited and aware of the situation at hand)

43
Why am I (Elizabeth) so favored, that the mother of (improperly applied preposition, which should imply for the purpose of, by the authority of OR to be a servant of) my (future) LORD (Strong's #2962, kurios, a generic term, as one with authority, as a controller only) should come to me? (Could Elizabeth have been speaking with a sense of future purpose?_ If not then this verse is contradictory to all of the rest of the verses, and shows improper translation.)
44 For behold, when the voice of your greeting came into my ears, the baby leaped in my womb for joy!
(adrenaline surge or emotional transfer by chemical means)
45
Blessed is she who believed (Miryam, a True Worshipper), for there will be (a future purpose) a fulfillment of the things which have been spoken to her from the (present) LORD (controller)!"
46
Miryam said, "My soul (life) magnifies (brings praise to YHVH by my service to) the (present) LORD (Kurios, the controller, not necessarily YHVH, but at this time YHVH was the "Controller").
47 My spirit
(attitude and character) has rejoiced in YHVH my Savior
,
48 For He has looked at the humble state of his handmaid. For behold, from now on, all generations will call me blessed.
49 For He who is mighty has done to
(for) me great things; Holy is His name.
50 His mercy is for generations of generations on those who fear Him.
51 He has shown strength with His arm. He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their heart.
52 He has put down princes from their thrones. Has exalted the lowly.
53 He has filled the hungry with good things. He has sent the rich away empty.
54 He has given help to Israel, His servant, that he might remember mercy
55 (As he spoke to our fathers) Toward Abraham and his seed forever."
56 Miryam stayed with her about three months, and returned to her house
(completely and Righteously Influenced or overshadowed to perform YHVH's Will for her. Mary / Miryam had a YHVH inspired "Mind set," and nothing was going to stop her from serving YHVH).


Note: Elizabeth was about six months pregnant when Miryam (Mary) went to stay with her. Miryam stayed until John (The Baptizer) was born about three months later. Could Miryam's eagerness to give birth to the promised Messiah have been heightened by being with Elizabeth for three months? Absolutely, after all, she was very willing to serve YHVH by giving birth to the prophesied Messiah. However, YHVH needed to have her wait in order to deliver Y'Shua during the symbolic Sacred Seventh Month of Tishri; which varies between mid September and early October on the Gregorian Calendar of today, but definitely not on or near December 25th.

Note: The length of time that passed after Miryam's return home and the specifics that took place are not mentioned, but apparently more than enough time had passed for an anxious Miryam and Joseph to become more acquainted, as an engaged couple, prior to the next verses. After all, She was influenced (overshadowed) to perform YHVH's Will [Early].



Luke 2:1-22 (See "Birth" when Y'Shua was born)
Now it happened in those days, that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be enrolled
(for Roman Tax purposes).
2 This was the first enrollment made when Quirinius was governor of Syria.
3 All went to enroll themselves, everyone to his own city.
4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and family of David;
5 to enroll himself with Miryam, who was pledged
(wife without permanent cohabitation) to be married to him as wife (permanent cohabitation), being great (nearly full term) with child.
6 It happened, while they were there, that the day had come that she should give birth.
7 She brought forth her firstborn son, and she wrapped him in bands of cloth, and laid him in a feeding trough, because there was no room for them in the inn.


Note: They stayed in a three sided "Sukkah", which is a temporary dwelling used during "Sukkat" (aka "Succoth" or "The Feast of Booths"). This event occurs every year during the Seventh Sacred Month of "Tishri" (Sivan) between mid September and early October on the Roman Gregorian Calendar.


8 There were shepherds in the same country staying in the field
(NOT winter time), and keeping watch by night (mild nights) over their flock.
9 Behold, an angel
(Aggelos or Messenger) of the LORD stood by them (the shepherds), and the glory of the LORD shone around them, and they (the shepherds) were terrified.
10 The angel said to them
(the shepherds), "Don't be afraid, for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be to all the people.
11 For there is born to you
(Israelites), this day, in the city of David, a Savior, who is Messiah the lord (kurios).
12 This is the sign to you: you
(the shepherds) will find a baby wrapped in strips of cloth, lying in a feeding trough."
13 Suddenly, there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising
YHVH, and saying,
14 "Glory to YHVH
in the highest (YHVH is The Highest), On Earth peace, good will toward men."
15 It happened, when the angels went away from them into the sky, that the shepherds said one to another, "Let's go to Bethlehem, now, and see this thing that has happened, which the LORD
(YHVH) has made known to us."
16 They came with haste, and found both Miryam and Joseph, and the baby lying in the feeding trough.
17 When they saw it, they
(the shepherds) publicized widely the saying which was spoken to them about this child.
18 All who heard it wondered at the things which were spoken to them by the shepherds.
19 But Miryam kept all these sayings, pondering them in her heart.
20 The shepherds returned, glorifying and praising YHVH for all the things that they had heard and seen, even as it was spoken to them.
21 When eight days were fulfilled
(a Purification Law and Ordinance) for the circumcision of the child, his name was called Y'Shua, which was given by the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
22 When the days of their purification
(issue of blood Ordinance) according to the law of Moses were fulfilled, they brought him up to Jerusalem (at The Temple), to present him to the Supreme Kurios (Kurios - The Present Controller OR YHVH)


Note: It should be noted that the term Kurios, "Controller," was a term that was being used for a position of Authority that was, also, in a transitional state. As originally "The Controller" was YHVH, but YHVH was preparing Y'Shua to become "The Controller" or His "Proxy." Miryam, Elizabeth, and Joseph in general knew and understood this; therefore the ambiguity between their usage of the present and the future "Controller."

Presently Messiah Y'Shua has been given ALL Authority as "The Controller" by YHVH, as His "Proxy" and Yet Y'Shua is still not YHVH, but "Like YHVH" in Spiritual 'Mind Set' as are all of YHVH's future children.



So did the "Immaculate Conception" of Miryam
(Mary) take place? Answer: No!

Was Mary a physical virgin at the time of Y'Shua's birth?
Answer: No!
Was Mary a physical virgin at the time of Y'Shua's conception?
Answer: Yes!
Was Joseph the actual physical father?
Answer: He had to be OR the Epistle of Matthew is a complete fabrication, and not based on even vague truth! Of course, being "Based on Truth" does not necessarily make it completely true.

Was Y'Shua of the seed of King David?
Answer: Absolutely! But David was not in heaven nor was he alive on Earth. Therefore, King David was the "Lineage of The Seed," as was Abraham.


Acts 2:29
"Brothers, I may tell you freely of the patriarch David, that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day.
30 Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that YHVH had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body
, according to the flesh, (YHVH is not flesh, and the Holy Spirit is a mental attribute) he would raise up the Messiah to sit on his (David's Throne, not YHVH's) throne,

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For David did not ascend into the heavens, . . . . . . .


Therefore, Messiah Y'Shua was a physically ordinary man, but "Set Apart" by YHVH for the purpose of YHVH's "Plan of Salvation." The "Immaculate Conception" is nothing more than the "Immaculate Deception," the Virgin Birth is a "Non-Issue," and Messiah Y'Shua completed his Earthly ministry, and has been given the Authority of "Controller" for "The Coming Kingdom" of YHVH on Earth, after the First Resurrection of The Dead in Messiah.

As I said before: Regardless of all of this, and even
if Joseph's and King David's Seed was supernaturally placed into the virgin womb of Miryam, Miryam's virginity still would not prove that The Messiah pre-existed or was God. It would still only prove that The Messiah was without a doubt The First Born or Eldest Son of Miryam.

Even so, the True Savior" of mankind is YHVH!


Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD
(YHVH is in Capital Letters); and beside me there is no savior.






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